tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post960932658604342611..comments2023-09-12T00:58:57.476-07:00Comments on Deborah Walker: Duotrope: Things ChangeDeborah Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-43363750307812669022012-12-11T18:23:17.756-08:002012-12-11T18:23:17.756-08:00I just wrote my first blog post in a month - it go...I just wrote my first blog post in a month - it goes up tomorrow - and I mentioned this too. I don't think I'm going to use it either going forward. Too bad. It was nice. Rusty Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09887821877521181811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-16330017555904265032012-12-11T04:48:17.289-08:002012-12-11T04:48:17.289-08:00There's a lot of talk about new alternative da...There's a lot of talk about new alternative databases, Milo. I'm going to wait and see what crops up. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-82580819574365356322012-12-09T07:03:02.457-08:002012-12-09T07:03:02.457-08:00Thanks to Duotrope, I have a spreadsheet of close ...Thanks to Duotrope, I have a spreadsheet of close to 200 markets I submit to regularly. I'll just have to rely on my writer friends from now on to clue me in when a new one opens... (That's how I rolled before I found out about Duotrope in 2010.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-69546975784795992402012-12-07T08:41:00.487-08:002012-12-07T08:41:00.487-08:00I've noticed that, too. Perhaps because Ralan&...I've noticed that, too. Perhaps because Ralan's been around longer. One great feature of Ralan's is that he'll thank you publicly for market information (if you wish it).<br /><br />Duotrope never responded to the market info I provided. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-10128823377177333722012-12-07T07:48:23.683-08:002012-12-07T07:48:23.683-08:00What I've always found interesting is that Ral...What I've always found interesting is that Ralan has the uglier site, but the better professional reputation - it's even name dropped in the latest HWA "On Writing Horror" book.Chris Alliniottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04094925215735680849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-75851788490191637152012-12-06T22:50:15.244-08:002012-12-06T22:50:15.244-08:00Hi Patsy. You have your own resources, I love the ...Hi Patsy. You have your own resources, I love the competitions you post on your blog. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-40949534199490549252012-12-06T22:49:24.143-08:002012-12-06T22:49:24.143-08:00Snow! It's just for Christmas. Yep, it feels a...Snow! It's just for Christmas. Yep, it feels a little sad, end of an era. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-28336675520571323942012-12-06T22:48:32.781-08:002012-12-06T22:48:32.781-08:00There's an incredible amount of non-paying ven...There's an incredible amount of non-paying venues. I wonder if the changes to duotrope will alter the landscape. Interesting times. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-32592667653498043392012-12-06T22:47:48.680-08:002012-12-06T22:47:48.680-08:00You should go for it. And you can always pop into ...You should go for it. And you can always pop into duotrope for $5 a month if you need to. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-90361257905325047792012-12-06T17:37:53.282-08:002012-12-06T17:37:53.282-08:00I didn't know what Duotrope was for, though I&...I didn't know what Duotrope was for, though I've heard of it before. It's always a little sad to see a good service institute a paywall.<br /><br />(And I love the fact the snow is on your blog again!)Golden Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08721520451194318436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-72883052875491685192012-12-06T11:53:59.815-08:002012-12-06T11:53:59.815-08:00//typo???? Delete mode activated//////typo???? Delete mode activated////Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-2584548363708835052012-12-06T11:27:35.346-08:002012-12-06T11:27:35.346-08:00'Love' should read 'live' by the w...'Love' should read 'live' by the way. Best not to ask Deborah to delete, though :)Michael McClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14708067144914238641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-18881379511383149282012-12-06T11:25:40.997-08:002012-12-06T11:25:40.997-08:00I'm muddling through. Bit tough looking for a ...I'm muddling through. Bit tough looking for a new place to love and work at the same time, so I've been non-Internet busy. As for the Amazon issue, well, Amazon refuses to let anyone publish The Blade That Whispers Hate' now that it's been flagged as pirated. Including me, the guy that complained. So I published it at Amazon under the title 'The Thief Who Pulled On Trouble's Braids'. Lesson learned- publish at Amazon before you publish at Smashwords, to short circuit all that nonsense.<br /><br />Anyway, how's tricks?Michael McClunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14708067144914238641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-82111090838189486832012-12-05T18:16:20.598-08:002012-12-05T18:16:20.598-08:00This is the first I've heard of it. Again - un...This is the first I've heard of it. Again - understandable if they feel they just can't go on - but from the sounds of it, they could've handled it better. I've supported in the past, but will not be paying to continue - most of the publications I've found and placed with successfully through them were non paying markets, which was amazing for exposure - but non-paying is non-paying.<br /><br />Chris Alliniottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04094925215735680849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-57307915222210178552012-12-05T13:13:33.243-08:002012-12-05T13:13:33.243-08:00I have used Duotrope, but not very often. Certainl...I have used Duotrope, but not very often. Certainly not often enough to justify the $50 fee they're asking.Patsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-52006100765125473012012-12-05T12:54:25.926-08:002012-12-05T12:54:25.926-08:00That's an important point about the accuracy o...That's an important point about the accuracy of Duotrope's data and how that will change.<br /><br />I've enjoyed the website and have donated myself in the past, but recent changes in publications started me forming my own database, in which I now keep track of pretty much everything Duotrope does. <br /><br />Starting January, I might try to go out on my own like you. As mentioned above, there are plenty of other resources, and it might be a good thing for me to broaden my networks.<br /><br />Nice snow!<br /><br />EChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09359075647077590741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-41172385991590521522012-12-05T09:18:38.340-08:002012-12-05T09:18:38.340-08:00Snow!Snow!Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-55410590932955904202012-12-05T09:18:28.884-08:002012-12-05T09:18:28.884-08:00I wish they'd been more transparent about the ...I wish they'd been more transparent about the amount of donations they'd received in the past. <br /><br />But, yes. It's their decision to make. There's all kinds of alternatives floating in the ether. We shall see. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-62604078842421679402012-12-05T09:17:17.616-08:002012-12-05T09:17:17.616-08:00Duotrope's handling of the announcement has ce...Duotrope's handling of the announcement has certainly caused comment! Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-11214558414888597102012-12-05T09:15:32.355-08:002012-12-05T09:15:32.355-08:00Yes, J.W. the data accuracy is an interesting issu...Yes, J.W. the data accuracy is an interesting issue. Duotrope believe that the data will be better after the change. <br /><br />However different users want different things from data. I'm particularly interested in outlier data. Data reporting a statistically improbable events, like an acceptance at <i>Fantasy and Science Fiction</i>! And data from users with very high acceptance rates, data from users who are held for consideration for a long time. <br /><br />If these users don't add their data to duotrope, then the value would decrease for<i> me</i>. <br /><br />Other users might not be so concerned with outlier data. <br /><br />And thanks for the reminder about critter's blackholes. Definitely worth checking out. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-17999940174007469892012-12-05T08:41:19.114-08:002012-12-05T08:41:19.114-08:00*laughs* just a simple typo. But I managed to make...*laughs* just a simple typo. But I managed to make it look, mysterious-- Sorry, Mark. Deborah Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120928766455872439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-9875968759638769982012-12-05T08:35:37.906-08:002012-12-05T08:35:37.906-08:00And btw, in addition to Ralan.com, there's als...And btw, in addition to Ralan.com, there's also critters.org/blackholes for market stats, and spacejock.com/Sonar3.html for submission tracking. I've been trying to spread the word about those on twitter, especially black holes. If enough people start using it, their stats will be just as accurate as Duotrope's.AuthorAldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06905712756325750291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-43514607518639048162012-12-05T08:32:26.671-08:002012-12-05T08:32:26.671-08:00I actually would be perfectly willing to pay the a...I actually would be perfectly willing to pay the annual fee. I certainly put enough server stress with my constant OCD refreshing of their pages. However, the problem is that it's clear not everyone is able or comfortable to do so (especially at the price point they've chosen), which means that regardless whether I'm willing to pay the price they're asking or not, the accuracy of their data is going to change. That diminishes the most useful part of the service provide, which means I'd be paying more for less. And that makes me reticent to give them <i>any</i> money, despite the fact that I've been giving them as much as I can when they weren't asking for any. AuthorAldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06905712756325750291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-14875629877659264352012-12-05T06:36:32.068-08:002012-12-05T06:36:32.068-08:00I feel the same about Duotrope. I supported it the...I feel the same about Duotrope. I supported it the best I could at this stage, but with their decision (and the way they handled the announcement), I'll do without. I also think the price point is ridiculous. I'm just glad there's Ralan, as you point out, and that the speculative world is pretty transparent with what's out there. Fingers crossed!Bluestockinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01225973854788421827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1285825281902714579.post-61258905520910352792012-12-05T06:20:06.758-08:002012-12-05T06:20:06.758-08:00I HAVE SNOW! Mr Kewin - you are so cool!I HAVE SNOW! Mr Kewin - you are so cool!Mark Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002166292175980928noreply@blogger.com